{"id":283,"date":"2022-09-14T14:20:36","date_gmt":"2022-09-14T14:20:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/test.dansk.ninja\/?page_id=283"},"modified":"2022-09-14T19:42:46","modified_gmt":"2022-09-14T19:42:46","slug":"relative-clauses","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/dansk.ninja\/index.php\/grammar-descriptions\/relative-clauses\/","title":{"rendered":"Relative Clauses"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A relative&nbsp;clause&nbsp;is a type of dependent&nbsp;clause,&nbsp;which&nbsp;describes&nbsp;the&nbsp;noun&nbsp;that&nbsp;appears&nbsp;right&nbsp;before&nbsp;it. Relative&nbsp;clauses&nbsp;add&nbsp;extra&nbsp;information&nbsp;about&nbsp;that&nbsp;noun.&nbsp;Examples&nbsp;are&nbsp;shown&nbsp;in (1).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">(1)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;a.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Jeg kender damen,&nbsp;<strong>som<\/strong>&nbsp;bor i det bl\u00e5 hus<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2019I know the lady,&nbsp;who&nbsp;lives in the&nbsp;blue&nbsp;house\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">b.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Han elsker bilen,&nbsp;<strong>som<\/strong>&nbsp;han fik i julegave<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\u2019He loves the car,&nbsp;that&nbsp;he&nbsp;got&nbsp;as a&nbsp;christmas&nbsp;present\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">c.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;De kender stedet,&nbsp;<strong>hvor<\/strong>&nbsp;vi var p\u00e5 ferie<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\u2019They&nbsp;know the&nbsp;place,&nbsp;where&nbsp;we&nbsp;went&nbsp;on&nbsp;holidays\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As the&nbsp;examples&nbsp;in (1) show, relative&nbsp;clauses&nbsp;can&nbsp;describe&nbsp;people&nbsp;(1a) and items (1b) as&nbsp;well&nbsp;as&nbsp;places&nbsp;(1c). Relative&nbsp;clauses&nbsp;start&nbsp;with a&nbsp;conjunction&nbsp;<em>som<\/em>\/<em>hvor<\/em>&nbsp;equivalent&nbsp;to English \u2019that\/which\/who\/where\u2019.&nbsp;Unlike&nbsp;other&nbsp;conjunctions, relative&nbsp;clause&nbsp;conjunctions&nbsp;simulatanously&nbsp;serve&nbsp;as&nbsp;subject&nbsp;or&nbsp;object,&nbsp;depending&nbsp;on&nbsp;which&nbsp;of&nbsp;those&nbsp;the relative&nbsp;clause&nbsp;refers&nbsp;to (relativizes).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Based&nbsp;on the&nbsp;examples&nbsp;in (1), it&nbsp;would&nbsp;seem&nbsp;that&nbsp;Danish and English&nbsp;coinside&nbsp;to a large&nbsp;extent&nbsp;when&nbsp;it&nbsp;comes&nbsp;to the&nbsp;structure&nbsp;and&nbsp;use&nbsp;of relative&nbsp;clauses,&nbsp;except&nbsp;that&nbsp;Danish&nbsp;makes&nbsp;no&nbsp;distinction&nbsp;between&nbsp;people&nbsp;(\u2019who\u2019) and items (\u2019that\/which\u2019)&nbsp;using&nbsp;just&nbsp;<em>som<\/em>&nbsp;for&nbsp;both.&nbsp;However,&nbsp;certain&nbsp;grammatical&nbsp;facts and variation&nbsp;muddy&nbsp;the&nbsp;waters&nbsp;a&nbsp;great&nbsp;deal,&nbsp;creating&nbsp;trouble&nbsp;for&nbsp;learners&nbsp;of Danish.&nbsp;Both&nbsp;of&nbsp;these&nbsp;issues&nbsp;have to do with&nbsp;grammar, more&nbsp;specifically&nbsp;the difference&nbsp;between&nbsp;subject&nbsp;and&nbsp;object&nbsp;relative&nbsp;clauses.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Som<\/em>&nbsp;vs.&nbsp;<em>der<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So far,&nbsp;we\u2019ve&nbsp;only&nbsp;looked&nbsp;at the&nbsp;conjunctions&nbsp;<em>som<\/em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>hvor<\/em>, but&nbsp;there&nbsp;is&nbsp;also&nbsp;the&nbsp;conjunction&nbsp;<em>der<\/em>,&nbsp;which&nbsp;has a&nbsp;more&nbsp;limited&nbsp;use,&nbsp;because&nbsp;it&nbsp;can&nbsp;only&nbsp;be&nbsp;used&nbsp;when&nbsp;subjects&nbsp;are&nbsp;relativized, not&nbsp;objects. So,&nbsp;examples&nbsp;(2a-b)&nbsp;are&nbsp;fine, but not (2c-d). (The asterisk (*)&nbsp;means&nbsp;non-grammatical).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">(2)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;a.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Jeg kender ikke kvinden,&nbsp;<strong>der<\/strong>&nbsp;danser med Jakob<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2019I&nbsp;don\u2019t&nbsp;know the&nbsp;woman,&nbsp;who\u2019s&nbsp;dancing&nbsp;with Jacob\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">b.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Jeg vinker til drengene,&nbsp;<strong>der<\/strong>&nbsp;taler med manden<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\u2019I\u2019m&nbsp;waving&nbsp;to the&nbsp;boys,&nbsp;who\u2019re&nbsp;talking&nbsp;to the man\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">c.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*Jeg kender ikke kvinden,&nbsp;<strong>der<\/strong>&nbsp;Jakob danser med<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\u2019*I&nbsp;don\u2019t&nbsp;know the&nbsp;woman,&nbsp;whom&nbsp;Jacob is&nbsp;dancing&nbsp;with<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">d.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*Jeg vinker til den mand,&nbsp;<strong>der<\/strong>&nbsp;drengene taler med<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\u2019*I\u2019m&nbsp;waving&nbsp;to the man,&nbsp;whom&nbsp;the&nbsp;boys&nbsp;are&nbsp;talking&nbsp;to\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A practical&nbsp;recommendation&nbsp;to&nbsp;avoid&nbsp;issues&nbsp;with&nbsp;using&nbsp;<em>der<\/em>&nbsp;is to&nbsp;avoid&nbsp;it and&nbsp;always&nbsp;use&nbsp;<em>som<\/em>.&nbsp;However, the&nbsp;learner&nbsp;of Danish must know,&nbsp;that&nbsp;<em>som<\/em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>der<\/em>&nbsp;are&nbsp;used&nbsp;interchangeably&nbsp;when&nbsp;subjects&nbsp;are&nbsp;relativized, so (2a-b)&nbsp;might&nbsp;as&nbsp;well&nbsp;have&nbsp;used&nbsp;<em>som<\/em>&nbsp;in&nbsp;place&nbsp;of&nbsp;<em>der<\/em>,&nbsp;whereas&nbsp;(2c-d)&nbsp;would&nbsp;only&nbsp;have&nbsp;been&nbsp;grammatical&nbsp;with&nbsp;<em>som<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Optionality&nbsp;of&nbsp;obejct&nbsp;RCs<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Another&nbsp;issue&nbsp;with&nbsp;RCs&nbsp;that&nbsp;relativize&nbsp;objects, is&nbsp;that&nbsp;in&nbsp;this&nbsp;context, the&nbsp;conjunction&nbsp;is not&nbsp;obligatory. This&nbsp;means&nbsp;that&nbsp;examples&nbsp;(2c-d)&nbsp;could&nbsp;be&nbsp;correctly&nbsp;expressed&nbsp;as in&nbsp;either&nbsp;(3a-b) and (3c-d).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">(3)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;a.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Jeg kender ikke kvinden,&nbsp;<strong>som<\/strong>&nbsp;Jakob danser med<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2019I&nbsp;don\u2019t&nbsp;know the&nbsp;woman,&nbsp;whom&nbsp;Jacob is&nbsp;dancing&nbsp;with\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">b.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Jeg vinker til den mand,&nbsp;<strong>som<\/strong>&nbsp;drengene taler med<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\u2019I\u2019m&nbsp;waving&nbsp;to the man,&nbsp;whom&nbsp;the&nbsp;boys&nbsp;are&nbsp;talking&nbsp;to\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">c.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Jeg kender ikke kvinden, Jakob danser med<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2019I&nbsp;don\u2019t&nbsp;know the&nbsp;woman, Jacob is&nbsp;dancing&nbsp;with\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">d.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Jeg vinker til den mand, drengene taler med<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\u2019I\u2019m&nbsp;waving&nbsp;to the man, the&nbsp;boys&nbsp;are&nbsp;talking&nbsp;to\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But&nbsp;RCs&nbsp;that&nbsp;relativize&nbsp;subjects&nbsp;do not have the same&nbsp;optionality, as&nbsp;shown&nbsp;in (4).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">(4)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;a.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Jeg kender ikke kvinden,&nbsp;<strong>som<\/strong>&nbsp;danser med Jakob<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2019I&nbsp;don\u2019t&nbsp;know the&nbsp;woman,&nbsp;who\u2019s&nbsp;dancing&nbsp;with Jacob\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">b.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Jeg vinker til drengene,&nbsp;<strong>som<\/strong>&nbsp;taler med manden<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\u2019I\u2019m&nbsp;waving&nbsp;to the&nbsp;boys,&nbsp;who\u2019re&nbsp;talking&nbsp;to the man\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">c.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*Jeg kender ikke kvinden, danser med Jakob<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2019I&nbsp;don\u2019t&nbsp;know the&nbsp;woman,&nbsp;dancing&nbsp;with Jacob\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">d.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*Jeg vinker til drengene, taler med manden<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\u2019I\u2019m&nbsp;waving&nbsp;to the&nbsp;boys,&nbsp;talking&nbsp;to the man\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Note&nbsp;that&nbsp;English&nbsp;does&nbsp;not have&nbsp;this&nbsp;same&nbsp;restriction,&nbsp;which&nbsp;is&nbsp;why&nbsp;the translations in (4c-d)&nbsp;are&nbsp;not marked as&nbsp;ungrammatical.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The&nbsp;extension&nbsp;of&nbsp;place&nbsp;to&nbsp;include&nbsp;\u201dtemporal location\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As&nbsp;mentioned&nbsp;above, the RC&nbsp;conjunction&nbsp;<em>hvor<\/em>&nbsp;usually&nbsp;relativizes&nbsp;locations (remember&nbsp;(1c)&nbsp;<em>stedet, hvor vi var p\u00e5 ferie<\/em>&nbsp;\u2019the&nbsp;place,&nbsp;where&nbsp;we&nbsp;went&nbsp;on&nbsp;holidays\u2019).&nbsp;However,&nbsp;this&nbsp;use&nbsp;can&nbsp;be&nbsp;used&nbsp;for locations in time as&nbsp;well, as&nbsp;shown&nbsp;in (5).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">(5)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;a.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Jeg husker det \u00e5r, (<strong>hvor<\/strong>) jeg boede hos min ven<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2019I&nbsp;remember&nbsp;that&nbsp;year&nbsp;(when) I&nbsp;lived&nbsp;with&nbsp;my&nbsp;friend\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Det var i den tid, (<strong>hvor<\/strong>) dinosaurerne levede p\u00e5 jorden<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2019It was&nbsp;in the time, (when) dinosaurs&nbsp;lived&nbsp;on&nbsp;earth\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As&nbsp;indicated&nbsp;by the&nbsp;parentheses&nbsp;in (5),&nbsp;these&nbsp;conjunctions&nbsp;are&nbsp;optional&nbsp;as&nbsp;they&nbsp;are&nbsp;in English. In addition to the&nbsp;structure&nbsp;in (5),&nbsp;you&nbsp;might&nbsp;also&nbsp;encounter&nbsp;the&nbsp;use&nbsp;of da \u2019when\u2019&nbsp;instead&nbsp;of hvor (<em>det \u00e5r,&nbsp;<strong>da<\/strong>&nbsp;jeg boede hos min ven<\/em>), but the&nbsp;use&nbsp;of&nbsp;<em>hvor<\/em>&nbsp;is&nbsp;more&nbsp;common.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A relative&nbsp;clause&nbsp;is a type of dependent&nbsp;clause,&nbsp;which&nbsp;describes&nbsp;the&nbsp;noun&nbsp;that&nbsp;appears&nbsp;right&nbsp;before&nbsp;it. Relative&nbsp;clauses&nbsp;add&nbsp;extra&nbsp;information&nbsp;about&nbsp;that&nbsp;noun.&nbsp;Examples&nbsp;are&nbsp;shown&nbsp;in (1). (1)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;a.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Jeg kender damen,&nbsp;som&nbsp;bor i det bl\u00e5 hus \u2019I know the lady,&nbsp;who&nbsp;lives in the&nbsp;blue&nbsp;house\u2019 b.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Han elsker bilen,&nbsp;som&nbsp;han fik i julegave &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\u2019He loves the car,&nbsp;that&nbsp;he&nbsp;got&nbsp;as a&nbsp;christmas&nbsp;present\u2019 c.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;De kender stedet,&nbsp;hvor&nbsp;vi var p\u00e5 ferie &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\u2019They&nbsp;know the&nbsp;place,&nbsp;where&nbsp;we&nbsp;went&nbsp;on&nbsp;holidays\u2019 As the&nbsp;examples&nbsp;in (1) show, relative&nbsp;clauses&nbsp;can&nbsp;describe&nbsp;people&nbsp;(1a) and items (1b) as&nbsp;well&nbsp;as&nbsp;places&nbsp;(1c). Relative&nbsp;clauses&nbsp;start&nbsp;with a&nbsp;conjunction&nbsp;som\/hvor&nbsp;equivalent&nbsp;to English \u2019that\/which\/who\/where\u2019.&nbsp;Unlike&nbsp;other&nbsp;conjunctions, relative&nbsp;clause&nbsp;conjunctions&nbsp;simulatanously&nbsp;serve&nbsp;as&nbsp;subject&nbsp;or&nbsp;object,&nbsp;depending&nbsp;on&nbsp;which&nbsp;of&nbsp;those&nbsp;the relative&nbsp;clause&nbsp;refers&nbsp;to&hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/dansk.ninja\/index.php\/grammar-descriptions\/relative-clauses\/\">L\u00e6s mere <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Relative Clauses<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"parent":148,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"inline_featured_image":false,"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-283","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/dansk.ninja\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/283","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/dansk.ninja\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/dansk.ninja\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dansk.ninja\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dansk.ninja\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=283"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/dansk.ninja\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/283\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":286,"href":"https:\/\/dansk.ninja\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/283\/revisions\/286"}],"up":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dansk.ninja\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/148"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/dansk.ninja\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=283"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}